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drugmirko
11-22-2004, 05:35 AM
well, since there's going to be ****** before we get the game in Slovenia/Europe I d.loaded&installed demo, hoping to try out a bit of the game at least...

Well, no can do!!!! whenever I try to start the demo it resets my computer :( :( :mad: . Beat's me why. I don't poses the ultimate beast in computing, my cofie grinder has fiew years on it's back, but it should be able to run the game. These are the specs:

mobo: MSI K7Turbo(MS-6330)
cpu: AMD Athlon T-bird 900MHz
ram: 384 MB
graphic: ATi Radeon 9600 with 128MB of memory
Windows XP home edition and DirectX 9.0c

Is there somebody with same simptomes, but with solution on his hands :D . And don't tel me flash your bios, install the latest drivers... i'm bit lazy for that kind of solutions. Game should be able to run as it is. I don't mind the speed (I played Pharaoh on P120 :p :D :D ).
tobing
11-22-2004, 06:35 AM
... And don't tel me flash your bios, install the latest drivers... i'm bit lazy for that kind of solutions. Game should be able to run as it is...
Hm, you definitely should make sure that your graphics drivers are up to date. Not doing so might render your system less usable, even wrt to games which seem to work already.

For ATi Radeon 9600 you should probably use the Catalyst 4.8 - I have a 9600 XT and 4.8 works fine. Newer drivers make some problems with other (older) games, but 4.8 is fine.

Are you also lazy when it comes to applying security updates or anti wirus updates to your computer? Not a good idea, if you ask me.
NeilV
11-22-2004, 08:04 AM
as per normal can you atach a copy of your DX Diag as it my help pinpoint your problem. :)
drugmirko
11-22-2004, 06:47 PM
Are you also lazy when it comes to applying security updates or anti wirus updates to your computer? Not a good idea, if you ask me.


no, I have my firewall, antivirus, antispyware and popup stopper set on automatic update mode, so I had no probs with this till now...



For ATi Radeon 9600 you should probably use the Catalyst 4.8 - I have a 9600 XT and 4.8 works fine. Newer drivers make some problems with other (older) games, but 4.8 is fine.


....but, i went to update my graphic drivers so first I had to install XPSP2 and my firewall imediatly fought with that useles Windows firewall, got some stupid aditional IE bar with popup notifications and Catalyst 4.8 drivers that replaced my ATI startup icone with something that does not work.... well... O.K. that something does something... it produces this:

CLI.exe Aplication Error :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:


have no time to deal with it now, cause I have to work like 14 hrs tomorow and I have to catch some sleep. if someone have are any more bright sugestiones I'd realy welcome them :D , regading game and current driver problem :p .... and where can i find that DX diagnostic? havent realy look for that... ever. :o
sitearm
11-22-2004, 06:52 PM
Drugmirko: Here ya' go...

Dxdiag diagnostic

1. Click Start, Run
2. Type "dxdiag"
3. Click OK

4. Runs a bit

5. Click Save All Information
6. Specify location (e.g., Desktop) for save file dxdiag.txt
7. Post this file for Devs (along with saved game file if needed)

...and where can i find that DX diagnostic? havent realy look for that...
drugmirko
11-24-2004, 06:03 PM
okay... gave up with those new catalyst 4.8 or 4.11 drivers that persistantly produced CLI.exe error mesages and caused closing and opening of programe windows in see trough slow mortion, so I reinstaled those that came with my card. there's no more error mesages :) , but game is stil reseting my comp :( .

so.... here's my DXdiag if someone could decyfer what apart of pld proc and bit dated drivers might be wrong:

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System Information
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Time of this report: 11/24/2004, 23:08:06
Machine name: TINKO
Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_rtm.040803-2158)
Language: English (Regional Setting: Slovenian)
System Manufacturer: MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD
System Model: MS-6330
BIOS: Award Modular BIOS v6.00PG
Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor, MMX, 3DNow, ~890MHz
Memory: 384MB RAM
Page File: 160MB used, 761MB available
Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
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DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
Display Tab 1: No problems found.
Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
Music Tab: No problems found.
Input Tab: No problems found.
Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
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Direct3D: 0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw: 0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay: 0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow: 0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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Card name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: RADEON 9600 Series AGP (0x4150)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)
Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_200217EE&REV_00
Display Memory: 128.0 MB
Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (60Hz)
Monitor: SONY SDM-X73 DVI digital
Monitor Max Res: 1280,1024
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6368 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/25/2003 10:40:44, 302592 bytes
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
VDD: n/a
Mini VDD: ati2mtag.sys
Mini VDD Date: 6/25/2003 10:40:12, 587264 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71EE2-0210-11CF-BE6C-0800A1C2CB35}
Vendor ID: 0x1002
Device ID: 0x4150
SubSys ID: 0x200217EE
Revision ID: 0x0000
Revision ID: 0x0000
Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Deinterlace Caps: {6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,UYVY) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x32315659) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,0x31434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC1,0x31434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,0x32434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC2,0x32434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,0x33434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC3,0x33434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,0x34434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(IMC4,0x34434d49) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,0x30343353) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S340,0x30343353) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
{6E8329FF-B642-418B-BCF0-BCB6591E255F}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,0x32343353) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,1) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
{335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(S342,0x32343353) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalStretch
Registry: OK
DDraw Status: Enabled
D3D Status: Enabled
AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
D3D7 Test Result: Not run
D3D8 Test Result: Not run
D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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Description: VIA Audio (WAVE)
Default Sound Playback: Yes
Default Voice Playback: Yes
Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3058&SUBSYS_33001462&REV_50
Manufacturer ID: 1
Product ID: 100
Type: WDM
Driver Name: ac97via.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.3622 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
WHQL Logo'd: Yes
Date and Size: 8/4/2004 06:32:32, 84480 bytes
Other Files:
Driver Provider: Microsoft
HW Accel Level: Full
Cap Flags: 0xF5F
Min/Max Sample Rate: 8000, 48000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 1, 0
Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 0, 0
HW Memory: 0
Voice Management: No
EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
Registry: OK
Sound Test Result: Not run

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Sound Capture Devices
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Description: VIA Audio (WAVE)
Default Sound Capture: Yes
Default Voice Capture: Yes
Driver Name: ac97via.sys
Driver Version: 5.10.0000.3622 (English)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Date and Size: 8/4/2004 06:32:32, 84480 bytes
Cap Flags: 0x41
Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
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DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
Acceleration: n/a
Ports: Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
VIA Audio (WAVE), Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
Registry: OK
Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
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Device Name: Mouse
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Device Name: Keyboard
Attached: 1
Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
Registry: OK

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USB Devices
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+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x1106, 0x3038
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 07:08:42, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 8/23/2001 12:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
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+ VIA AC'97 Audio Controller (WDM)
| Location: PCI bus 0, device 7, function 5
| Matching Device ID: pci\ven_1106&dev_3058
| Service: VIAudio
| Driver: ac97via.sys, 8/4/2004 06:32:32, 84480 bytes
| Driver: ksuser.dll, 8/4/2004 08:56:42, 4096 bytes
| Driver: ksproxy.ax, 8/4/2004 08:56:58, 130048 bytes
| Driver: ks.sys, 8/4/2004 07:15:22, 140928 bytes
| Driver: drmk.sys, 8/4/2004 07:07:58, 60288 bytes
| Driver: portcls.sys, 8/4/2004 07:15:50, 145792 bytes
| Driver: stream.sys, 8/4/2004 07:08:02, 48640 bytes
| Driver: wdmaud.drv, 8/4/2004 08:56:58, 23552 bytes
|
+-+ Standard Game Port
| | Matching Device ID: *pnpb02f
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/4/2004 07:08:22, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
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+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 07:14:36, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 06:58:32, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 09:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 8/4/2004 06:58:32, 24576 bytes
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 8/4/2004 07:14:36, 52736 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 06:58:32, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 09:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 8/4/2004 06:58:32, 23040 bytes

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DirectPlay Service Providers
----------------------------
DirectPlay8 Modem Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 IPX Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider - Registry: OK, File: dpnet.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Internet TCP/IP Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
IPX Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpwsockx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Modem Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)
Serial Connection For DirectPlay - Registry: OK, File: dpmodemx.dll (5.03.2600.2180)

DirectPlay Voice Wizard Tests: Full Duplex: Not run, Half Duplex: Not run, Mic: Not run
DirectPlay Test Result: Not run
Registry: OK

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DirectPlay Adapters
-------------------
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM1
DirectPlay8 Serial Service Provider: COM2
DirectPlay8 TCP/IP Service Provider: Local Area Connection 2 - IPv4 -

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DirectPlay Voice Codecs
-----------------------
Voxware VR12 1.4kbit/s
Voxware SC06 6.4kbit/s
Voxware SC03 3.2kbit/s
MS-PCM 64 kbit/s
MS-ADPCM 32.8 kbit/s
Microsoft GSM 6.10 13 kbit/s
TrueSpeech(TM) 8.6 kbit/s

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DirectPlay Lobbyable Apps
-------------------------

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Disk & DVD/CD-ROM Drives
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Drive: C:
Free Space: 1.4 GB
Total Space: 6.3 GB
File System: FAT32
Model: WDC WD200EB-00BHF0

Drive: D:
Free Space: 12.3 GB
Total Space: 12.8 GB
File System: FAT32
Model: WDC WD200EB-00BHF0

Drive: E:
Model: TEAC CD-W54E
Driver: c:\windows\system32\drivers\cdrom.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Slovenian), 8/4/2004 06:59:52, 49536 bytes

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System Devices
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Name: VIA CPU to AGP Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_8305&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_00\3&61AAA01&0&08
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\VIAAGP.SYS, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:07:42, 42240 bytes

Name: VIA AC'97 Audio Controller (WDM)
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3058&SUBSYS_33001462&REV_50\3&61AAA01&0&3D
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ac97via.sys, 5.10.0000.3622 (English), 8/4/2004 06:32:32, 84480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksuser.dll, 5.03.2600.2180 (Slovenian), 8/4/2004 08:56:42, 4096 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ksproxy.ax, 5.03.2600.2180 (Slovenian), 8/4/2004 08:56:58, 130048 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\ks.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (Slovenian), 8/4/2004 07:15:22, 140928 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\drmk.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:07:58, 60288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\portcls.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:15:50, 145792 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\stream.sys, 5.03.2600.2180 (Slovenian), 8/4/2004 07:08:02, 48640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\wdmaud.drv, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:56:58, 23552 bytes

Name: VIA Tech Power Management controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3057&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_40\3&61AAA01&0&3C
Driver: n/a

Name: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_12340925&REV_16\3&61AAA01&0&3B
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:56:46, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: VIA Rev 5 or later USB Universal Host Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_3038&SUBSYS_12340925&REV_16\3&61AAA01&0&3A
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbuhci.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:08:38, 20480 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbport.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:08:42, 142976 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\usbui.dll, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 08:56:46, 74240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\usbhub.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 07:08:42, 57600 bytes

Name: VIA Tech PCI to ISA bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0686&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_40\3&61AAA01&0&38
Driver: n/a

Name: VIA Bus Master IDE Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0571&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_06\3&61AAA01&0&39
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\viaide.sys, 1.00.0001.0001 (English), 8/4/2004 06:59:42, 5376 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\pciidex.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (Slovenian), 8/4/2004 06:59:42, 25088 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\atapi.sys, 5.01.2600.2180 (English), 8/4/2004 06:59:42, 95360 bytes

Name: VIA Tech CPU to PCI bridge
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1106&DEV_0305&SUBSYS_00000000&REV_03\3&61AAA01&0&00
Driver: n/a

Name: Realtek RTL8139 Family PCI Fast Ethernet NIC
Device ID: PCI\VEN_10EC&DEV_8139&SUBSYS_813910EC&REV_10\3&61AAA01&0&70
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\RTL8139.sys, 5.398.0613.2003 (English), 8/4/2004 06:31:32, 20992 bytes

Name: RAID Controller
Device ID: PCI\VEN_105A&DEV_0D30&SUBSYS_4D33105A&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&78
Driver: n/a

Name: RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4170&SUBSYS_200317EE&REV_00\4&9AEDED5&0&0108
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6368 (Slovenian), 6/25/2003 10:40:12, 587264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6368 (English), 6/25/2003 10:40:44, 302592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 4.13.0001.0003 (English), 9/4/2001 09:24:26, 28672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3d1ag.dll, 6.14.0010.3844 (English), 6/25/2003 09:24:24, 848640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3d2ag.dll, 6.14.0010.3844 (English), 6/25/2003 09:45:30, 1036288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0182 (English), 6/25/2003 10:08:56, 1086240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0004 (English), 6/25/2003 10:24:26, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4000 (English), 6/25/2003 09:09:34, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 04:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4079 (English), 6/25/2003 10:25:22, 294912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4079 (English), 6/25/2003 10:27:50, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2481 (English), 6/25/2003 10:28:18, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0008 (English), 6/25/2003 10:28:12, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.3842 (English), 6/25/2003 11:32:54, 4796416 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.3009 (English), 6/25/2003 13:22:18, 229376 bytes

Name: RADEON 9600 SERIES
Device ID: PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_4150&SUBSYS_200217EE&REV_00\4&9AEDED5&0&0008
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\DRIVERS\ati2mtag.sys, 6.14.0010.6368 (Slovenian), 6/25/2003 10:40:12, 587264 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2dvag.dll, 6.14.0010.6368 (English), 6/25/2003 10:40:44, 302592 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Ati2mdxx.exe, 4.13.0001.0003 (English), 9/4/2001 09:24:26, 28672 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3d1ag.dll, 6.14.0010.3844 (English), 6/25/2003 09:24:24, 848640 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3d2ag.dll, 6.14.0010.3844 (English), 6/25/2003 09:45:30, 1036288 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati3duag.dll, 6.14.0010.0182 (English), 6/25/2003 10:08:56, 1086240 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ATIDDC.DLL, 6.14.0010.0004 (English), 6/25/2003 10:24:26, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atitvo32.dll, 6.14.0010.4000 (English), 6/25/2003 09:09:34, 17408 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ativcoxx.dll, 6.13.0010.0005 (English), 11/9/2001 04:01:04, 24064 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.exe, 6.14.0010.4079 (English), 6/25/2003 10:25:22, 294912 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\ati2evxx.dll, 6.14.0010.4079 (English), 6/25/2003 10:27:50, 90112 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atipdlxx.dll, 6.14.0010.2481 (English), 6/25/2003 10:28:18, 81920 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\Oemdspif.dll, 6.14.0001.0008 (English), 6/25/2003 10:28:12, 73728 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atioglxx.dll, 6.14.0010.3842 (English), 6/25/2003 11:32:54, 4796416 bytes
Driver: C:\WINDOWS\system32\atiiiexx.dll, 6.14.0010.3009 (English), 6/25/2003 13:22:18, 229376 bytes
drugmirko
11-24-2004, 06:05 PM
and the sequele... :p


edit: delited it to shoretn the thread; found the problem though. solution lower in the thread.
drugmirko
11-24-2004, 06:07 PM
geee.... that was long... why didn't I post it as link? :confused: :D

hope that it will be of some use :) , thanks.
NeilV
11-25-2004, 04:11 AM
was your version of XP an upgrade version as i noticed that both HDD are set to Fat 32 not NTFS if it was an upgrade that could be your problem as for the driver issue if you are willing to try another set try version 4.2 they have been the most stable set of the year with 9600 cards


NeilV
drugmirko
11-25-2004, 12:54 PM
no... I had win98 on it before, but I formated HD before instaling XP. beates me why I didn't change file allocation sistem to NTFS. might be something with cluster sizes or partitioning.... :confused:

I'll try 4.2 drivers as well. who knows, it might help :) .
drugmirko
11-25-2004, 12:57 PM
oh, yeah... what drivers have I now? is there any logic in those numbers so one can read out the popular catalyst x.x number?

Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6368

and thnx NeilV.
NeilV
11-25-2004, 02:08 PM
Driver Name: ati2dvag.dll
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6368 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 6/25/2003 10:40:44, 302592 bytes

Taken by the driver date you have cat ver 3.6 / 3.7

as the way to work out cat no. is year and month as ATI do an update each month

Not sure if their is a way to work it out from driver version as mine show up as
Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6490 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 10/26/2004 20:35:58, 214528 bytes

But on the options tab of the control panel they show up as 4.11
Keith
11-25-2004, 06:06 PM
Mine show up as catalyst version 4.9

Driver Version: 6.14.0010.6476 (English)
DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
Driver Date/Size: 8/25/2004 13:29:04, 209408 bytes
tobing
11-26-2004, 01:55 AM
Have you tried Catalyst 4.8 yet? That version (as already told long ago in this thread) works fine for me, newer versions don't.
drugmirko
11-26-2004, 04:33 AM
Have you tried Catalyst 4.8 yet? That version (as already told long ago in this thread) works fine for me, newer versions don't.


:) , yep... did that right after reading your post... didn't went well. check fourth post in thread ;) . thanks anyway, tobing.


but, what are the esentials in dxdiag? how do you see what is wrong? I underestand that direct X version, graphic procesor&driver and main procesor are esential, mybe some thing with memory... but esentialy game should be able to run. regardles of it speed.
tobing
11-26-2004, 06:21 AM
:) , yep... did that right after reading your post... didn't went well. check fourth post in thread ;) ...
Sorry, seems I didn't notice that. So this says you were not able to install and use 4.8? Have you used 4.9 oder newer before installing 4.8? If that would be the case, you have to uninstall any newer driver and maybe use a removal tool (found on the ATI site iirc) before you can install an older driver. There might be some mix between versions you have installed now on your system, which could cause a lot of trouble.

Another approach might be to use the so called Omega drivers - some people reported that everything would work much better (and faster) with those than with the original STI drivers. Might be worth to try that...
drugmirko
11-27-2004, 03:23 PM
hell.... I tried out almost all ATI catalist drivers. vesiones from 3.8 to 4.3 kind of work, but causes picture on monitor to shake shortly and quickly in intervals of aprox. half of minute. versiones higher than that produce CLI&co errors. beates me.... not that I cant play demo... I kind of cant understand why I'm not able to update that stupid drivers :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'm back on my original version of 3.6 that came on CD with graphic card. they work like charm, but I cant play CoTN :mad:
Jacquou Le
11-27-2004, 03:37 PM
hell.... I tried out almost all ATI catalist drivers. vesiones from 3.8 to 4.3 kind of work, but causes picture on monitor to shake shortly and quickly in intervals of aprox. half of minute. versiones higher than that produce CLI&co errors. beates me.... not that I cant play demo... I kind of cant understand why I'm not able to update that stupid drivers :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

I'm back on my original version of 3.6 that came on CD with graphic card. they work like charm, but I cant play CoTN :mad:
Just some quick notes for ATI cards that you must un-install (1) previous display driver, ati control panel first. Reboot next (2). And install (3) the latest drivers last. In step (3), you must install ATI Display Driver first, then ATI Control Panel.

The latest Catalyst for ATI Radeon card as I see on its site is 4.11.
Hans Schroeder
11-27-2004, 05:25 PM
Do you have FastWrite disabled? We've seen that in some cases disabling fastwrite can help with ATI cards. Let us know if that helps.
drugmirko
11-27-2004, 05:29 PM
yes Jacqou Le.... after doing it for about 10 times, belive me that I know that :p . that is one big reason that I gave up. you realy get tyred of it :D .


and I'm on a virge of giving up on this game too :( . I'm a fan of whole series from CaesarIII onwards. a huge one! bought them all, even when pirate copy was in reach of my hand for free. but now I have a slight feeling of unfinished product here... I mean, my comp is far from it's youth, it's kind of metusalem... but I was able to instal and run Doom 3 demo for exsample. with no problems. it worked, with like five frames per second :D :D :D , but it worked! it wasn't bothered by aincent drivers, ****y procesor, old direct X, low end graphic.... and we are talking of computer&graphic power hungry game in last decade. geezz.... it's just a stupid building game. please make it work.... I don't mind the speed, I just wish to play it... :( :mad:

Ill go and try it with fastwrite disabled now. hope that it'll help :) . thanks.
drugmirko
11-27-2004, 07:11 PM
so, my dear friends..... I'm hapy to anounce the end of my problems. my demo is finaly working :D .

it happens that this game is guite hapy with low end Ati's graphic cards, it's aincent Catalyst 3.6 drivers, slugish CPUs, FastWrites on or of... etc...
all of this simply doesn't matter. what caused my demo game to crash was downloaded falulty demo package ;) . I tok it of one of GameSpot or 3D Gamers mirrors. not shoure wich one, cause I downloaded it a week ago.

I found that out right after checking fastwrite off that resulted in just another crash. it pissed me off, so I uninstaled the demo, then felt sorry and downloaded it aggain, but since d.load rate at GameSpot was meezely 30k i went lower on the list of d.load locations and PC Game World did the honnores fast&neetly. the instalation guide was bit different than first time. it produced fiew more option choices than the other one. "instal direct X or not " was one of them. I realy don't remember much more and fankly, I dont realy care, it's late, I'm beaten and the thing finaly works.... well it started and I took quick see arround the first map, zoomed in and out of map, rotated it and did some menue clicking. enough for now and enough to make me hapy :D :D .