Tilted Mill: What does this game bring to the table?

[Future Guy]

I have read the 1UP preview and I am just flabbergasted by it.

Many of the things that Sim City is known for are being removed. Pipe laying is gone, power line laying is gone, zoning is gone, the adviser system is gone...

So what exactly is being ADDED that makes me want to get this game? The whole aspect of the Sims and new functionality they bring? Is that it? Wealth and Obedience stuff? What's this? Is it connected to the Sims games? Sure looks like it. If so, congratulations, you just managed to get the Sims fanbase to buy your product.

As a Sim City fan I am extremely disappointed. I know others will welcome these changes but this game is not what Sim City is about. Perhaps it should be called "Sims in the City" because it sure looks like the essence of Sim City is gone to help incorporate The Sims ideas into it.

So, WHY should I spend the $40 or $50 to get this game? At this point in time I have decided I will not be getting this game. Too many things are being removed to 'dumb it down'. I have a good idea as to what is being removed but what is being added that should make me want to get this game?

[offspring_dude]

If so, congratulations, you just managed to get the Sims fanbase to buy your product.
What are you talking about?

All of your post adds up except that part. Sims fans won't get it; gamers either want The Sims, or they want Sim city. Gamers that feel 'adventurous' and buy a game that mashes two concepts together, will, I GUARANTEE, be extremely disappointed.

This game will flop like the other cartoonish 3d city-building gimmicks that have come before it. I could find any one of Caesar 4, Tycoon City New York, or Children of the Nile, lying around in those bargain bins for five bucks.

[Future Guy]

What are you talking about?

All of your post adds up except that part. Sims fans won't get it; gamers either want The Sims, or they want Sim city. Gamers that feel 'adventurous' and buy a game that mashes two concepts together, will, I GUARANTEE, be extremely disappointed.

This game will flop like the other cartoonish 3d city-building gimmicks that have come before it. I could find any one of Caesar 4, Tycoon City New York, or Children of the Nile, lying around in those bargain bins for five bucks.
Then why is there so much focus, it seems there is, on the Sims in this game? I could be wrong, and if I am, so be it. I don't want to work on a 'society' in my city, as that is what I am getting from the information currently available.

[offspring_dude]

Then why is there so much focus, it seems there is, on the Sims in this game? I could be wrong, and if I am, so be it. I don't want to work on a 'society' in my city, as that is what I am getting from the information currently available.
There's probably so much focus on it because they think they're going to be appealing to the huge Sims fanbase; which probably won't happen.

[Inge Jones]

Well if it is like The Sims in that you can recognise individuals in the city and see them interacting, and if you can design their houses then I will buy this. If it's like the first or 2nd SimCity but nicer looking I shall buy it. If it carries on in the direction SC4 was going I won't buy it. SC4 was just stressful and horrible.

[NitC]

i play the sims (sometimes), the sims can get boring quick, the olny time sc4 got boring for me is when it crashed, since you removing most of everything that brought meaning to the game, and so far not offering anything really big that people will like, what will make us buy?!?.....SO FAR NOTHING, YES NOTHING will make us but it, that's right, they want nothing to make you buy it, great plan right, just one problem, there's no person named nothing

[Future Guy]

Well if it is like The Sims in that you can recognise individuals in the city and see them interacting, and if you can design their houses then I will buy this. If it's like the first or 2nd SimCity but nicer looking I shall buy it. If it carries on in the direction SC4 was going I won't buy it. SC4 was just stressful and horrible.
So what other games do you play? Certainly you play a game that is more complex than Sim City 4. I guess people just don't want to learn how to play a game anymore, eh?

[Azeem]

So what other games do you play? Certainly you play a game that is more complex than Sim City 4. I guess people just don't want to learn how to play a game anymore, eh?

That all depends. Some people just don't have the time to invest a lot of efforts into a game. I don't know how old you are, but some of us have jobs (stressful jobs, mind you) that demand a lot of our time. I can post on forums because I have break periods between teaching classes, but I do have a great deal to do for lesson planning or other things that demand my attention.

Simpler doesn't necessarily mean easier, by the way. Even a simple game can be challenging and engaging.

[Inge Jones]

So what other games do you play? Certainly you play a game that is more complex than Sim City 4.

I do not! I play computer games to relax. Even when I play The Sims 2 I tend to just build their house and sit watching them do as they please.

I also have a jigsaw puzzle app I like.

Just remembered I also have Trainz and a couple of roller coaster games but I gave up playing Trainz because it expected you to learn to drive a train and I kept derailing mine. Really I just wanted to sit on the train as a passenger.

[the Monkeys Uncle]

^LOL, is this the kind of player SCS is aiming for? I hope not.

[Inge Jones]

I believe The Sims is the biggest selling game series of all time. Or I read something like that anyway. Pleasing a typical Sims player is not a bad marketing move. But I would hope it could be done without taking away the challenges from the players who are more used to a difficult game. SC4 would have been great fun for us softies with a proper sandbox mode. :D

[Hardin]

You wouldn't happen to be this Inge Jones would you? http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=43

[Inge Jones]

You wouldn't happen to be this Inge Jones would you? http://www.modthesims2.com/member.php?u=43

There IS only one Inge Jones :p

[Future Guy]

I do not! I play computer games to relax. Even when I play The Sims 2 I tend to just build their house and sit watching them do as they please.

I also have a jigsaw puzzle app I like.

Just remembered I also have Trainz and a couple of roller coaster games but I gave up playing Trainz because it expected you to learn to drive a train and I kept derailing mine. Really I just wanted to sit on the train as a passenger.
Well, that explains it then. I guess I don't see how fun it can be to build a house and then just sit there and watch the Sims do whatever. You know, what's amazing by your post is that you bought a trains game and gave up because you didn't want to learn how to drive a train. That's the problem right there, you don't want to learn how a game works and I find that to be a terrible thing. I play games to relax too but obviously those games would be too hard for you. No offense.

Azeem, I'm 22 and I do have a full time job with a long commute to and fro (and by long I mean 2hrs round-trip).

[Hardin]

There IS only one Inge Jones :p
I'm getting off topic but I like your custom content.

[Inge Jones]

Thank you Hardin! :)

[Meghan]

Well, that explains it then. I guess I don't see how fun it can be to build a house and then just sit there and watch the Sims do whatever.

It's interesting that you'd say that, Future Guy, because that's sort of how I've felt about SimCity. You lay your plumbing and your power lines, plop down some zones and then sit back and wait to see what grows. I'm not saying there's nothing more to it, that's just the impression I get.

I know I'm a novice SimCity player compared to you. I'm sure you're busy with details I don't know about. I was just struck by your comment.

I think as gamers, we probably share a lot more than those comments suggest. We all have our areas of expertise and favorite moments. Perhaps we need all need to remember that just because we don't have that in depth knowledge of the "other side" it doesn't mean the knowledge and possibilities for great moments don't exist.

[Future Guy]

It's interesting that you'd say that, Future Guy, because that's sort of how I've felt about SimCity. You lay your plumbing and your power lines, plop down some zones and then sit back and wait to see what grows. I'm not saying there's nothing more to it, that's just the impression I get.

I know I'm a novice SimCity player compared to you. I'm sure you're busy with details I don't know about. I was just struck by your comment.

I think as gamers, we probably share a lot more than those comments suggest. We all have our areas of expertise and favorite moments. Perhaps we need all need to remember that just because we don't have that in depth knowledge of the "other side" it doesn't mean the knowledge and possibilities for great moments don't exist.
I can see that I may have contradicted myself a bit. Once you get a city going, you have to manage RCI, emergency services, taxes, education, build an efficient transportation system, put down parks and recreation, connect with other cities in the region and maybe even make deals with them and more. While I watch my city grow, I'm doing other things at the same time. But yeah, I am watching my city grow.