Simcity to simpile?

[NitC]

the new simcity societies will have no pipes, power grid, or zone,thay also said "past simcities have been too complex, ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Were not 5 year olds!! it almost seems to simpile to be fun
What do you guys think

here is everything you need to decide
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3160151

[sc4ever]

I really don't understand why they said SC4 was complicated. I know it wasn't a easy-play-8-years-old game, but after a while you learn how works everything and it's not difficult at all!

[DanoruX]

the new simcity societies will have no pipes, power grid, or zone,thay also said "past simcities have been too complex, ARE YOU KIDDING ME! Were not 5 year olds!! it almost seems to simpile to be fun
What do you guys think

here is everything you need to decide
http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3160151
It's still too complex. I think they should remove the ability to build things and just have the computer run the city for you. Players just choose between different speeds the game should run at and leave it be. While we're at it, the graphics are just too confusing, the whole city can just be represented by an icon. And there should be no numbers to look at, since they're too confusing for some people.

[Need_Help]

It's still too complex. I think they should remove the ability to build things and just have the computer run the city for you. Players just choose between different speeds the game should run at and leave it be. While we're at it, the graphics are just too confusing, the whole city can just be represented by an icon. And there should be no numbers to look at, since they're too confusing for some people.

Good suggestion, why don't you write at the suggestions page?

[King Faticus]

the forum was too confusing so they merged it with this thread lol

(sorry I am half asleep and things are 10 x funnier )

[DonMikimax]

This game will suck so hard that nobody will buy it, except for ''new unskilled players'' [kids from consoles]:mad:

[King Faticus]

hehehe this post makes me giggle :p

ofcourse I won't repeat why;)

[Need_Help]

Do you feel that its so confusing that so many different members posting different things? Why don't we make there only 1 member and post only 1 post in this forum? (joking :P)

[King Faticus]

wanna draw sticks? XD

[sicarim]

Obviously I, like all devoted Simcity franchise fans, am very disappointed about the developments here. I can't judge at this point, because I have no idea what the game will be like. But in general, its safe to say we won't be playing Simcity 5, but rather a more watered down version of Simcity that likely represents The Sims on a larger scale.

Yes, the game looks far too simple. Lets hope tilted mill takes to heart these concerns and tries to remedy them.

[DonMikimax]

Do you feel that its so confusing that so many different members posting different things? Why don't we make there only 1 member and post only 1 post in this forum? (joking :P)

Do you ''veterans of this forum'' feel that its so confusing that so many different members are joining after SC:S has been announced, disappointed on EA decision to simplify the game and giving it to TME, not Maxis?!

We would have never registered here if there was no SC:S, keep that in mind...

P.S. Thanks for warm welcome.

[Teederman]

I can see the boards when this game comes out, already. Their new fanbase will grace them with posts like "HAO DU I INSTL TEH GAM!!!!!11111one I PT DSK IN TEH DRV BT IS NOT STRTRING THIS GAM IS TEH SUKS LOL"

That is, if they can even figure out how to turn on the computer, put the disk in the drive, read the text on screen, and use an internet browser to go to the website to sign up, activate the account, and post. Maybe they are on to something here. If they target the most moronic audience imaginable, the people might not even have the mental capacity to take the game back to the store after figuring out what a turd it is.

But then again, if they wanted to target complete idiots they would need fancier graphics. You know, HDR, bloom, and all those other resource hogging things that make games look stupid and unrealistic.

Maybe they are just failures and this game will flop so hard the force generated will destroy the Earth.

[Azeem]

Simplified rules doesn't necessarily make for an "easy" game or a game that lacks any challenges whatsoever. It can make a game easier to approach while at the same time keep things difficult to master. As I mentioned in another thread, Chess, for example, is a game with fairly simple rules and can be learned in just a ten-minute session, but is very difficult to master.

[Rnett]

I can see the boards when this game comes out, already. Their new fanbase will grace them with posts like "HAO DU I INSTL TEH GAM!!!!!11111one I PT DSK IN TEH DRV BT IS NOT STRTRING THIS GAM IS TEH SUKS LOL"



I hope not...:rolleyes:

[offspring_dude]

Good suggestion, why don't you write at the suggestions page?
Judging by the game itself, he probably did.

[DanoruX]

Judging by the game itself, he probably did.
:rolleyes:

[NitC]

well honestly i think watching my city rise from the ashes while i watch tv is better than ploping every building a seeing the peoples reaction, but opinions are opinions,

[King Faticus]

so basically you would prefer the computer playing the game than you yourself? :confused:

[John-SJ]

Accessible and approachable do not equal simple.

If you have been reading what is available concerning SC:S you know that the depth and kinds of interactions that will take place will be quite involved and subtle in most cases.

While the types of interactions are many times quite different from earlier CimCity titles I feel pretty strongly that SC:S will be able to hold its own as an equal to the rich complexities of SC4 and other SC games.

SC:S may not be everybodies cup of tea, but then, neither is SC4. By trying to insult those who show an interest in this game, you do nothing to insult them, but you do paint a vivid picture of your own level of maturity. In other words, grow up!

[Aushun]

In other words, grow up!
Hear hear!

[NappySick]

Some of the features of scs go beyond simple and border retarded . Ginger Bread houses and mimes, just to name a few .

[mouse]

Maybe some people don't understand words like play and game. Maybe some people have missed the words entertainment and fun. Not everybody wants their games to be fully realistic but rather escapist with some fun and challange. Most adults lives are stressful enough that gaming is an escape for awhile from all the stress and demands of real life.

Sneering at those who don't make a religion of game play is eltist and childish since everybody brings something different to gaming and expects to get something different from game play.If games were produced just for the hardcore gamer then PC games would have died out since there isn't actually that big a market of hardcore gamers since the vast majority of gamers are casual players.

Casual gamers dip in and out of a wide variety games who don't even care about completely mastering a game. They just want to have fun and escape from the demands of real life and the stress of real life. That doesn't make those people in some way less than those that devote their lives to games nor does it make them in some way less intelligent than hard core gamers.

Gingerbread houses and candycane street lights are for an entertainment district not for a whole city which aren't even in real life that realistic. Just take a look at Las Vagas if there is any doubt in anyones mind. It injects a bit of fun into the city building process just what a casual gamer is looking for in a game.

Before anyone dismisses the causal gamer they need to keep in mind the real money and demand for games comes from those who are making the money in this world. The average age of those gamers is 30+ years of age with full time jobs and some disposal income who have $50 to drop on game that is fun and a challange.

Sorry for the rant but personally I'm tired of all the ranting and raving and name calling that has been displayed by those who don't have the same view of games. If someone doesn't like a game fine then don't buy it or play it but leave the rest of us to enjoy looking forward to the gaming experience of a new game. One persons simple is another persons joy and fun.

[Azeem]

I agree with mouse. I have enough to deal with in real life. An escapist game is more my cup of tea.

An accusation that some indivduals seem to like to throw around is that "accessible" and "simple" somehow equates to "retarded." "Simple" and cartoony games are popular in South Korea. Does that make South Koreans retarded?

[NappySick]

I see the wasps are out , i made a comment about SCS , not casual gamers , retarded folks or South Koreans you guys crack me up twisting things like you do, anyway real life is full of mimes some places have a greater concentration than others a few places come to mind. I use my gaming to escape the pressures of real life and the mimes , i want a game i can relate to and have fun with not one that insults my inteligence and make me feel nauseous. And i would seriously be concerned about an adults state of mind that found mimes and gingerbread houses entertaining , and i for one would never take them seriously again in anything they said.

[John-SJ]

.... I use my gaming to escape the pressures of real life and the mimes , i want a game i can relate to and have fun with not one that insults my inteligence and make me feel nauseous.
Well then, by your own estimation you are in the wrong place here. I am not trying to be rude, but perhaps you would be happier elsewhere.

And i would seriously be concerned about an adults state of mind that found mimes and gingerbread houses entertaining , and i for one would never take them seriously again in anything they said.
To be perfectly honest, I do not think you are in any position to pass judgement on the state of mind of an adult and how he chooses to spend his time in fun activities.

[EmperorJay]

I see the wasps are out , i made a comment about SCS , not casual gamers , retarded folks or South Koreans you guys crack me up twisting things like you do, anyway real life is full of mimes some places have a greater concentration than others a few places come to mind. I use my gaming to escape the pressures of real life and the mimes , i want a game i can relate to and have fun with not one that insults my inteligence and make me feel nauseous. And i would seriously be concerned about an adults state of mind that found mimes and gingerbread houses entertaining , and i for one would never take them seriously again in anything they said.

A mime who's good at miming can be entertaining really, but I would agree that most of them are rather annoying.

In SC:S, I find mimes quite entertaining as well as the gingerbread houses and the candy-canes. I find them entertaining for what they are: funny and excentric additions in the game to represent the way a city is being build. Therefore, I would try to create such a city once or twice. Just once or twice to see what the buildings are like, to have a good laugh and enjoy the colourful city that seems more like being set in a fantasy world than a real one.

After that, I'll build cities I probably enjoy more, with a greater emphasis on prosperity, industrialism and obedience.

Now that I've admitted I find gingerbread houses entertaining, you will probably stop taking me seriously. If you would really do, you would've failed to see that I'm seeing a part of the game as entertaining and not the actual gingerbread house. And if you can't see that different people find different themes interesting, you shouldn't bother anyone with spreading your opinion on a game like SC:S, because as it seems, SC:S does appreciate that different people enjoy different things and it only tries to satisfy as many people as possible by allowing players to build a city they like, nothing more, nothing less. You build what you like. Don't like gingerbread houses? Don't build them. Do like gingerbread houses? By all means, go for it and enjoy them for what they are - game features.

[majortom1981]

Most of you should be ashamed of yourselves. the original sim city was also an EASY game to play.

Plus you guys are bashing the game with only even seeing maybe a quater of what the gameplay is like. You havent even played a demo yet.

Plus the gingerbread comments are getting annoying. If you don't want gingerbread house then DONT BUILD THEM. nobody is forcing you to build them ,so stop complaining. Save all the UNINFORMED comments for when the game releases.

This is worse then what happens with console fanboys.

[NappySick]

Emporer Jay you hit the nail on the head , i am not excentric enough for SCS , but since when as sim city become a game for excentric people , i always thought and felt it was a game for folks that had both feet firmly fixed to the floor . Thing is i dont want to be excentric either ,i dont require that kind of attention , being excentric is not a good quality ,imho ,unless your a movie star , then its a complete must .
John SJ i just ignore your remarks ,as they mean nothing to me and are quite useless, realy ..

Stop trolling and make your own we love scs thread ,i merely answered the origanol post with my opinion of what ive seen upto now, so your saying i am not entitled to vioce my opinion as it doesnt agree with yours ,(obsene remark removed ) you .

[John-SJ]

mouse,

Once again, you have hit the nail on the head as far as I am concerned.

I play games to escape. I could care less about mastering a game, or being the best, or comparing the results of my gameplay with other gamers for competitive reasons. All of that is meaningless to me. I play for fun! If I find a game fun, I will play it with no regard whatsoever for anyone who finds it silly, boring, or childish. I just don't care!

I also play a variety of games. Right now I am playing 5 city builders including SimCity 4. But to be perfectly fair I play SC4 less than any of the others. I am playing 4 different RTS games and I have games going in CivII, CivIII, and Civ4. I used to play MMORPG games a lot, but that passion has waned of late, my personal and family demands have increased recently and I no longer can devote enough time to them to make them fun. And, I really don't mind not spending $45-$60 per month on accounts either. LOL!

I look forward to SC:S. Why? Because of its realism? No. Because of its complexity? No. I look forward to it becuase, to me, it appears to be a fun game! If I did not see it as fun I would not be hanging around here. (and frankly, I have a hard time understanding why there are so many people here that already "know" that SC:S will not be fun for them. I've never been a masochist though, so its easy to see why I don't understand them :))

Am I eccentric? Perhpas. Do I care? LOL! Not in the slightest.

Anyway, mouse, thanks for your posts here and elsewhere. They are normally quite insightful, and express the opinions of quite a few people here. ;)

[Azeem]

I'm simply questioning and responding the manner in which some posters approach an argument and making generalizations, that is all. That cracks me up as well. Also, I never directly referred to you. Curious how you always somehow think everything said is directed towards you.

"Eccentric" is a pretty big word. That fans regard certain games with an almost religious devotion is an eccentricity in itself. I'm sure some would find that pretty disturbing as well.

[Nakia]

This is getting ridiculous. As one of the senior members of the Board I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some of the comments made here. I have Internet friends who are under the age of 18 and I find their comments to be reasonable and I learn a lot from them. One of them who was 15 at the time made a comment about SimCity. "I live real life why would I want to play it?"

I also wonder what the people who consider SC:S simplistic, childish, garbage etc watch on TV? Only the educational programs? Most TV programs, including the news, is simplistic and childish. I love the programs from BBC but please don't tell me the comedies are intellectual.

Games are for fun. If I want real life I can get plenty of it without playing a game. I play Morrowind and Oblivion but that is fantasy and I guess makes me an eccentric. Eccentric: Some one who is different from the common mold. What is wrong with that? I'd rather be an eccentric than be average.

Every one has a right to his or her own opinion but that does not give them the right to insult people who disagree with them.

By the way Einstein was an eccentric.

[King Faticus]

there is no such thing as a common mold anyways, everybody is different and will think differently.
Some people will love SC:S and others will hate it, there is no way around that:D
And btw I am lmao at some of these comments, because I am shameless:eek:

PS. NappySick, I respect your right to have your own opinion but l also disagree with it.
That is all I am going to say lol:D

[NappySick]

In popular usage, eccentricity refers to unusual or odd behavior on the part of an individual. This behavior would typically be perceived as unusual or unnecessary, without being demonstrably maladaptive. Eccentricity is contrasted with "normal" behavior, the nearly universal means by which individuals in society solve given problems and pursue certain priorities in everyday life. For people who consistently display benignly eccentric behaviour, there is a label: "eccentrics".
A person who is simply in a "fish out of water" situation is not, by the strictest definition, an eccentric since, presumably, he may be ordinary by the conventions of his native environment.

Eccentrics may comprehend the standards for normal behavior in their culture, or they may not. They are simply unconcerned by society's disapproval of their habits or beliefs. Many of history's most brilliant minds have displayed many unusual behaviors and habits.

Some eccentrics are cranks, rather than geniuses. Eccentric behavior is often considered whimsical or quirky, although it can also be strange and disturbing. American billionaire Howard Hughes, for example, was considered to be very eccentric in his old age. He became a figure of pity when news of his unusual behavior was revealed. It was rumored that he even stored his urine in glass jars and never cut his hair or nails. Despite his strange behavior, Howard Hughes was a brilliant financier and aircraft engineer.

Other people may have eccentric taste in clothes, or have eccentric hobbies or collections which they pursue with great vigour. They may have a pedantic and precise manner of speaking, intermingled with inventive wordplay.

Behavioral eccentricities have often been classically associated with psychological profiles indicating overcompensation, insecurities, unresolved childhood issues, involuntary celibacy and other sexual issues, repressed feelings, social ineptness, monomania, or a variety of other influences, even if the person would not necessarily be classified as insane. Some accepted psychological profiles that are commonly attributed to eccentrics are the Oedipus complex (a primal desire on the part of a young male to compete with his father for his mother's love and affection), Napoleon complex (colloquial term used to describe a type of inferiority complex suffered by people who are short), Peter Pan Syndrome, obsessive-compulsive disorders, and various forms of autism, most notably Asperger syndrome. Eccentric behavior has also been attributed to drug use.

Many individuals may even manifest eccentricities consciously and deliberately, in attempting to differentiate themselves from societal norms or enhance a sense of inimitable identity; given the overwhelmingly positive stereotypes (at least in pop culture and especially with fictional characters) often associated with eccentricity, detailed above, it would seem only natural that certain individuals would seek to be associated with this sort of character type. However, this is not always successful and the individual in question may simply be dismissed by others as just seeking attention.

Thats from wiki it says more bad than good about eccentricity , Although some of the worlds finest minds have been crazy people . Im very happy to be just plain ole me thankyou very much .


King Faticus - Thats cool man np , i so much wanted to like this game myself .

[Azeem]

Wikipedia ain't exactly the be-all-end-all source for information.

"Normal" people are simply eccentrics in denial.

That SC fans are so extremely devoted to the game - that is an eccentricity.
That people visit here and argue over a bloody game instead of doing something remotely constructive - that's another eccentricity.
That you somehow seem to think that my comments were mostly directed towards you, NappySick, when I in fact never mentioned you directly and was referring to NitC's comments in this thread and the other thread - that's an eccentricity too.

[John-SJ]

Let's see, who would I rather be associated with, Einstein, or NappySick?

Hmmmm, Einstein? .... NappySick? .... Einstein? .... NappySick?

Gee, that's a tough one, I just can't decide one way or the other.

I guess I'll just have to keep on being the same me I've always been and not worry about what I am, or what others may think.

:)

[Nakia]

I only know one "normal" person; ME. Every one else is eccentric :p

[NappySick]

Johnsj you are not associated with me in any way, shape or form . Grow up stop being childish , anyway i thought you was going making a we love scs thread , you can be sure its one thread i wont be visiting. Your in the wrong thread , these are the negative threads , not the 3 bags full threads.

[John-SJ]

LOL with Nakia!

But no, I'm the normal one, you are the eccentric! :p

[John-SJ]

It would appear that some people (not naming names, I don't want to be accused of anything) have missed the point of this thread. The original poster invited coments when he said "What do you guys think". There was no indication that he was only interested in negative comments.

By the way Nappi, didn't you already say that you were ignoring my comments? Why then are you commenting on them? Do you have so little self control?

[Azeem]

Well, actually, it's quite apparent that when NitC started this thread, he was looking only for negativity instead of constructive comments. ;)

[John-SJ]

Really? And I took his request for comments literally! My bad! ;)

[NappySick]

This is getting ridiculous. As one of the senior members of the Board I don't know whether to laugh or cry at some of the comments made here. I have Internet friends who are under the age of 18 and I find their comments to be reasonable and I learn a lot from them. One of them who was 15 at the time made a comment about SimCity. "I live real life why would I want to play it?"

I also wonder what the people who consider SC:S simplistic, childish, garbage etc watch on TV? Only the educational programs? Most TV programs, including the news, is simplistic and childish. I love the programs from BBC but please don't tell me the comedies are intellectual.

Games are for fun. If I want real life I can get plenty of it without playing a game. I play Morrowind and Oblivion but that is fantasy and I guess makes me an eccentric. Eccentric: Some one who is different from the common mold. What is wrong with that? I'd rather be an eccentric than be average.

Every one has a right to his or her own opinion but that does not give them the right to insult people who disagree with them.

By the way Einstein was an eccentric.

Its better to laugh , never cry unless its over the loss of a loved one . You was asking about Tv well to be honest i watch very little TV and avoid the propaganda on the news like the plague , i do enjoy movies , i realy enjoy discovery , history type programms also , and a bit of sports , but time most people spend couch potato-ing in front of the tv i do something on my pc , learn new software play a game , ect .Ok i admit it i love the Simpsons, espiacally when homer had a chicken wing stuck to his cheek for 3 days .My sim city experience is nothing like my real life experience , no one s ever asked me to be mayor in RL , not that i would accept anyway .. So the 15 year olds comment , i dont take to seriously .
PS i have not insulted anyone although i have defended myself and insulted SCS , anyone that cares to connect themselves with my remarks about my opinion of scs is trolling or possiblely very eccentric .

[Azeem]

Personally, I find it a bit "eccentric" of you to connect my comment directed at NitC's statements somehow was an attack on you.

And i would seriously be concerned about an adults state of mind that found mimes and gingerbread houses entertaining , and i for one would never take them seriously again in anything they said.

I'm pretty sure that counts as an insult, by the way.

[John-SJ]

...PS i have not insulted anyone although i have defended myself and insulted SCS , anyone that cares to connect themselves with my remarks about my opinion of scs is trolling or possiblely very eccentric .
If these lapses of memory occur often, you should consult with a doctor. I'm not being insulting, just concerned.

[mouse]

John-SJ glad I hit your gaming style:D It also happens to be my gaming style as well as my reading style;) My goal is reasoned well thought out posts with quality rather than quanity.

Frankly I don't care to engage in fruitless discussions that aren't reasoned and well thought out nor do I care what unreasonable people think about me or my life style. Just too old to care about childish spoilers. Spent too many years dealing with those type of people on the job.

[Nakia]

What I wonder about is this: do hardcore SimCity fanantics have a sense of humor? Why do they play the game? It doesn't sound to me as if they play for fun. Do they play other games or only SimCity games?

I tried to link to Simtropolis but was only able to access one thread then my pewter froze up. Guess my PC doesn't like the Simtropolis site. :eek: Works fine every where else.

[King Faticus]

Mouse I have a question for you...
I don't want to sound rude or anything but if you think the discussion is fruitless then why did you get involved in the first place?:confused:

[NappySick]

I laugh as hard as anyone else when someone ,thing catches my attention but you goto be good to get my interest , i dont do cheap jokes , but i love gut busters as does everyone . When they spartan warrior replies Yes sire as he spears the wounded persian , that kind of thing makes me laugh the sicker the better, sounds like some of the guys around here only smile when they pass wind .

Gaming i play lots , many differant , from CnC3 to CoH to many to name , and of course sim city . But i dont play sims games , i dont want to babysit them , but the rush hour sim city 4 game is one of my all time favorites , with the old Civ 2 and scenarios ,imperilasm , caesar , knights and merchants,outlaws , call of jurezz,fifa , madden , tiger woods , need for speed ,toca,burnout, red alert,cossacks,praetorians,Civ 3, 4 call of duty 1,2,3 , mafia,Battlefield2,MK,Aoe, StrongHold, axis and allies ,Civ Call to power, lots and many i havent mentioned i got a stack here maybe 40 games deep , collected over the last 10 years or so .My first ever pc game was The Hobbit on a Vic 20 . And football manager.

As for Simtropolis , it is a free site and does get a bit bogged down , and the is so much stuff on there its a achievement that the admins get the site to run at all. Be patient is my advise go back later .I have one of the lowest post counts at simtropolis so please dont link me with the opinion or community of simtropolis, i speak for me and no one else , if anyone over there isnt happy about SCS , then they are quite capable of comming over here to tell you themselves.

[John-SJ]

In defense of mouse:

mouse (in my estimation) has remained above the petty squabbling of this thread and has offered a reasoned and well thought out response to the main topic. Or, that's how I see it anyway. :)

[NappySick]

Dont worry its cool , i dont mind realy , and if you dont hate me already , then you will for sure ;) when you see the size and wealth of my cities , its all good .

[John-SJ]

NappySick, I just can't figure you out. (Maybe that is your intention? :))

I read your list of games played and it is obvious that you go back a ways. Btw, my first game was on a Vic20 also, but it was one I programmed on the Forth programming language cartridge, but that's another story.

But I have a hard time justifying your apparent age in light of statements like:

Anyway lol im going to buy it yes indeed , and im going to be the best at it , with the biggest , best richest , happiest city of elite sims you could ever imagine . I may just buy it more than once for fun too. Im going to add lots of content unique to my city aswell , and im not going to share any of it , unless i like you
which, no offense, in my estimation, stems from a very immature attitude indeed.

I can only guess then that the seemingly immature attictude is only a facade, that maybe you're just having a good laugh at the expense of others. Is that it?

[King Faticus]

I was only asking a simple question, I hope it didn't sound like I was criticizing Mouse for her posts because I have to agree she has kept out of the mud rather well.

Also am I the only one who sees the humor in NappySicks posts?
Sarcasm might be the devils humor but it is funny as hell o_0

[NappySick]

Personally, I find it a bit "eccentric" of you to connect my comment directed at NitC's statements somehow was an attack on you.



I'm pretty sure that counts as an insult, by the way.

Sorry azeem i missed that , you know what me and you got off on the wrong foot, im sorry i laughed at the image of the asian sports cars on the busy road,maybe we can start again , all i said in the first post that , that gingerbread houses and mimes were retarted , how you see that as an insult to you is beyond my reasoning ,it wasnt your idea to put them in the game was it ? ever since those few words ive been a victim of malisous attack over and over again throughout the day .

John Sj - Dont even try to figure me out , as i will just change to confuse matters, look at the avatar it was made for me . Childish , well i have a 138 iq which makes me faster than a dual core , but i am a big kid at heart and pride myself on it . To be here discussing SCS means your a big kid yourself , getting into petty fights with me over the details of a childrens pc game confirms this , im not scared to admitt it i can spit a dummy farther than most people, you just think your some kind of intelectual when realy your as childish as i and the others , anyway my cities are the largest, wealthiest without cheats ,on hard in sc4 so why should they be in SCS ? It wasnt a childish statement at all as i intend to prove it to be true in time.

King Faticus , Sarcasm , try living as a UK tax payer sarcasm is the only thing that keeps you sane .Its the only way to deal with authority and goverment.They cant punish you for it .I dont mind paying taxes so long as i can make sacastic remarks as i hand over the cash, i dont mind buying a licience for a tv , so long as i can tell the authority that i know its a stealth tax and they dont fool me ,and that they are robbing us. Being robbed of over 70% of your gross income every week soon learns you to become very sacastic indeed.It can be quite a difficult form of communication especialy when they victim isnt smart enough to get it .

[JuliaSet]

I've not kept up with the details in this thread, but as one ages, you realize that everything changes. Change and accepting it gracefully is part of growing up. Forcing it to remain the same is an invitation for frustration. (I would like to remain 35 but am stuck with a 65 year old body and what it can do)

We love games, they change and will continue to change. Let's ride the wave of invention and enjoy what we find.

Julia

[John-SJ]

...
John Sj - Dont even try to figure me out , as i will just change to confuse matters, ....
Duly noted. ;)

[Rnett]

Whatever happened to "too simple"?:eek:

[King Faticus]

Things are getting simpler and keep getting more complicated;)

[Azeem]

Things are getting simpler and keep getting more complicated;)

Heh. That's quite true, actually. :D Just take our "modern conveniences," for example.

[Romaq]

Heh. That's quite true, actually. :D Just take our "modern conveniences," for example.

As an Otter (http://redwall.muck.limitless.org/Members/otter) once told me, "The only thing that sucks worse than technology is doing without. And even then, only sometimes."

--Romaq

[MarkDuffy]

Meanwhile, back at the thread-starter post...

Simcity to simpile?

[and ignore the mispelling, cuz the OP actually meant "simple" & not the play-on-words]

If you all go back to the original spilled beanz (that caused all the grief with the poor readers), along with the new information...

TM & SCS promises that it is only easier to get started. I expect gameplay success in the game to be a bit harder. Much harder, especially later in the Campaigns.

[JuliaSet]

Well, usually the developers are tired of their games after slogging through heavy work on them. http://www.citybuildingcontests.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/kitty-x.gif Hearing that Dani McDowell plans to buy five copies of the game tells me that it is an absolutely intriguing game.. probably very interesting to run and probably more than a "simple game."

We have seen more happy Devs on the TM forums than other games, so we might guess that they are working on the best game they have made in a while. http://www.citybuildingcontests.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/beret.gif

Gooooooooo TM ! http://www.citybuildingcontests.net/vbulletin/images/smilies/rainbow-tm.gif